علم و فناوری

Maho CNC Conversion: THE MOVIE!!

Get that popcorn ready because It's finally here!
The Maho milling machine conversion all the kids are talking about!
Watch the whole thing... or... skip to the section you're interested in:
00:00 video starts here
00:51 video REALLY starts here
02:31 axis conversion overview
08:20 converted performance (rapids & speeds)
10:56 machine health & general inspection (geometric)
16:08 new CNC control add-ons
17:40 3-axis MPG
19:18 electronic tool setter
21:13 control/electrical cabinet (drives, VFD, hydraulics, oiler, relays, etc.)
23:40 servo drives wiring & I/O
24:45 AC Servos & Drives (Leadshine)
26:16 EtherCAT AC servo pricing & kits
27:22 Element-CNC industrial control PC
27:36 KINGSTAR realtime motion control
30:32 Open-Loop vs Closed-Loop for dummies, by dummies
34:34 Servo Tuning for dummies, by dummies
48:00 the end?
Check out RotarySMP's channel here:
irface.info
Music used in this video:
Bolereando - Quincas Moreira

نظر 

  1. xtry511

    xtry511

    پیش 13 ساعت

    Tony if you want to ballbar your machine to see the accuracy with a Renishaw let me know.

  2. Russ Ives

    Russ Ives

    پیش 15 ساعت

    Just discovered this channel (as in Mar, 2021). Eating up the content like warm beer nuts. Really has me questioning my life's choices.

  3. gamer pro

    gamer pro

    پیش 21 ساعت

    So much words??. No subscrib

  4. gamer pro

    gamer pro

    پیش 21 ساعت

    Dont takk just make.we undrstand

  5. Sean Day

    Sean Day

    پیش روز

    is your Y axes issues from the shaft "buckling" in the one direction. It would account for why it is one direction and not the other. Is the head pretty tight in the dovetails?

  6. Chris Varone

    Chris Varone

    پیش روز

    Hey Tony, I'm an employee of IntervalZero. It was great to see someone use our product for personal use! Our product is so far down in the chain of production I rarely ever get to see anything physical come of it!

  7. D P

    D P

    پیش 2 روز

    5:24 the crunch sound is from the white plastic pipe rubbing on the metal hose in the background, if you mean this sound, I dont hear anything else

  8. Koen van der laan

    Koen van der laan

    پیش 3 روز

    @This Old Tony, is it me (or maybe an optical illusion) or does your y-screw look like its not parallel to the ways @5:30 into the video?

  9. ponakka

    ponakka

    پیش 4 روز

    how much is the the oval ball field in metrics. Because there is no point of translating freedom units to metrics, if you don't explain the distance of your hand egg field size.

  10. XGalaxy4U

    XGalaxy4U

    پیش 4 روز

    That's not bad Tony. When I say that's not bad, I mean it.

  11. adcurtin

    adcurtin

    پیش 5 روز

    Love the 3 axis MPG. almost certainly going to make one for myself.

  12. ajhatti2011

    ajhatti2011

    پیش 5 روز

    Your freaking cut-away visuals are the best freaking part of these videos. The subtlety and humor is fantastic.

  13. ajhatti2011

    ajhatti2011

    پیش 5 روز

    Well if my lathe breaks down I know who to call. Lemme know if you have a transmission go out in your truck.

  14. Nicolas Audouard

    Nicolas Audouard

    پیش 6 روز

    your Y nut is missing balls

  15. David Lewis

    David Lewis

    پیش 6 روز

    When Tony first started this project (and I know nothing about any of this) I thought, “Oh cool”. And then, months later, I was like, “whatever happened to that Maho project?” Holy moly, now I see why. Way more complicated than it looks. What a project.

  16. Danny THE Dog

    Danny THE Dog

    پیش 6 روز

    Pure overindulgance in precision cutting makes me high. So i must buy a mill, my Lord.

  17. NUMB SKULL

    NUMB SKULL

    پیش 7 روز

    Oh boy!!!! TOYS!!!!!

  18. guerilla2013

    guerilla2013

    پیش 7 روز

    I love the subtle dad jokes!

  19. Max Headroom

    Max Headroom

    پیش 7 روز

    so what was causing the bearing noise? did not see you fix it.

  20. Cristian Sánchez Furió

    Cristian Sánchez Furió

    پیش 7 روز

    "Feel free to skip if you want" OF COURSE I will skip several times. But BACKWARDS. There are some jokes so good I love listening to them several times. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 BEST. CHANNEL. EVER. ❤️❤️❤️

  21. johnym89

    johnym89

    پیش 7 روز

    I have an idea for the problem you are running with the Y axis. The ball thread has one slide to the side of it (the whole slide of the head), causing it to bend in one direction thus being super unhealthy for these bearings. How about putting an extra bearing in a strong housing that is set to take on these forces? Or better yet give it a 'second slide' that Will counter the pull from the Main y axis slide.

  22. kirkdis

    kirkdis

    پیش 7 روز

    The Maho green is called machinery green in Germany and the color code is RAL6011 not RAWR! ;-)

  23. Ennar

    Ennar

    پیش 7 روز

    Those of us who have never been to a football field can't imagine it

  24. Beach Road

    Beach Road

    پیش 7 روز

    Ok........great video......as usual!!! Ok......and i m not to smart..........b u t.......WHAT THE HECK DOES ......MAHO.....stand for..??????

  25. Josiah V

    Josiah V

    پیش 8 روز

    I didn't even realise it was a 48 minute video lol watched from start to finish and enjoyed every bit.

  26. Mike H

    Mike H

    پیش 8 روز

    Tony, do you know what max RPM you have seen from these servos? Do you ever get close to the 3000rpm limit for the ones you have?

  27. suyog sangle

    suyog sangle

    پیش 8 روز

    ❤️ from India 🇮🇳

  28. Nathan Quinlan

    Nathan Quinlan

    پیش 8 روز

    Servos to the ribcage help with safety. Dangerous workspaces need bruising agents to remind you to watch yourself.

  29. Man Putty

    Man Putty

    پیش 9 روز

    Please do a gas spring video that would be amazing.

  30. Spencer Callahan

    Spencer Callahan

    پیش 9 روز

    I still fondly remember the FANUC servo-tuning "blip" sound from my days working on CNC machines. Also, I now happily spend my days no longer working on CNC machines.

  31. MAKGA

    MAKGA

    پیش 9 روز

    Does she still speak with a German accent?

  32. Daniel Lopez

    Daniel Lopez

    پیش 9 روز

    Super Awesomeness again, as Always!!

  33. Justin

    Justin

    پیش 9 روز

    I'd buy the Maho OnlyFans

  34. diggerman19

    diggerman19

    پیش 9 روز

    !

  35. Grey Paladin

    Grey Paladin

    پیش 9 روز

    Might want to add some movement locking switches or some sort of "dead-man" type switch to the MPG cube. I'm sure it's mostly fine, but I'd be worried if any freak vibrations on the table causing an MPG to move when it shouldn't. Or worse; something goes wrong and the cube is knocked off of the table, it hits the floor, the mpgs spin and send all the axes in random directions, your work is ruined, your tool explodes, the spindle is slammed into your vice and bends, and worse; you have to bring your router back while you spend a few months fixing the Maho.

  36. Robin Forslund

    Robin Forslund

    پیش 9 روز

    The difference in surface finish is most likley because one of the sides is climb milling (nice side) and The other side is conventional milling. I suspect it wont go away compleatly, unfortuneatly.

  37. Calum Mackay

    Calum Mackay

    پیش 10 روز

    Industrial electrician sees this and is beyond extremely impressed. Same guy looks at that panel and is utterly horrified! Get it sorted out man! Great channel definitely subscribing, just promise never to show me in there again!

  38. Roger Barraud

    Roger Barraud

    پیش 10 روز

    19:00 So are you going to add haptic feedback for the machine loads? Then it would really feel like manual jogging...

  39. TrumanHW

    TrumanHW

    پیش 10 روز

    Tram (apparently) is the parallelism within the x-axis. But NOD is the parallelism within the y-axis.

  40. Attractspsychos

    Attractspsychos

    پیش 10 روز

    From start to finish, how long did it take to make this video?

  41. Mihkel

    Mihkel

    پیش 10 روز

    That ballnut replacement @5:18... Is it me or the crunchy sound also matches up with the metal wire harness grinding against the plastic tube rings... There is also a solid ground groove from the contact grind in the plastic tube...

  42. Attractspsychos

    Attractspsychos

    پیش 10 روز

    I would never think to skip around on your videos.

  43. SimoX04_ YT

    SimoX04_ YT

    پیش 10 روز

    Man the strange ticking you were hearing at the start of the video were the two pipes sliding one over the other, around 5:25, look right

  44. Ken Russ

    Ken Russ

    پیش 10 روز

    Very, VERY informative! Thanks TOT for having taken what is surely a TON of time to put this all together.

  45. Castloader

    Castloader

    پیش 10 روز

    Tony, you had me chuckling all through this. Keep up the humor, it makes learning about machining so enjoyable. Cheers!

  46. Eragon Power

    Eragon Power

    پیش 11 روز

    I think that the crunching noise on the Y axis ball screw nut is caused by a misalignment, it makes that sound only when the bearing block is going towards the machine, that causes to bend even more and to destroy the ball screw nut

  47. CheeseGuru101

    CheeseGuru101

    پیش 11 روز

    You’ve gotta be careful when working with dehydrated steel. A mate of mine didn’t have his coolant mix right and the piece expanded by 20x, he hasn’t been the same since

  48. Systems Planet

    Systems Planet

    پیش 11 روز

    That machine sounds as bad as I feel

  49. JD

    JD

    پیش 11 روز

    Why a Mach based controller and not a commercial controller and software?

  50. David Marcus

    David Marcus

    پیش 11 روز

    "...but it can become a rabbit hole if you keep thinkin' you could just get a little bit better." Truer words never spoken!

  51. yeah nah yeah

    yeah nah yeah

    پیش 12 روز

    11:35 had me in a fit of laughter hahahaha

    • yeah nah yeah

      yeah nah yeah

      پیش 12 روز

      Scratch that the whole lot did hahaha

  52. Way's Coatings

    Way's Coatings

    پیش 12 روز

    This Old Tony relly blows my mind! Where are you based out of?

    • Way's Coatings

      Way's Coatings

      پیش 12 روز

      Just a heads up I was a machine builder for American Broach and built alot fof the CNC Broach Sharpeners and I might have some insight for your ball screw problems too. We need to Colab !!

  53. Keith Monarch

    Keith Monarch

    پیش 12 روز

    Tony, I have been enjoying your various machine projects. And do a nice job explaining/how-do. This might be the first time I popped 😳 a comment. If you're interested, for some good add on's to automate, for your machinery. Have you ever heard of Direct Automation 🤔. Check out this company. One day, we should chat together.

  54. Gary Stewart

    Gary Stewart

    پیش 12 روز

    What did i just watch I'm sure it was some guy talking about a big green machine that does some sort of wizardry with metal

  55. Tony_in_PA

    Tony_in_PA

    پیش 12 روز

    I love me some long format Tony.

  56. CenturionPlays

    CenturionPlays

    پیش 12 روز

    Don't worry Tony. I watched the whole video. I even rewatched some of it because i kept getting distracted.

  57. William T. Musil

    William T. Musil

    پیش 12 روز

    Hiya

  58. Greg Ranbo

    Greg Ranbo

    پیش 12 روز

    Don't worry about dove tail ways unless you have to hold .001 tolerances I operated a nc bridge port in the 70s with dove tail ways. no big deal Since then I operated and maintained 14 different cnc's . 13 had box ways, and I could hold .00005 tolerance on grade 2 titanium on a Takasawa lathe . We had Mazak mills and Lathes and Yams too.The only machine with ball ways was a Swedish drill press with 54 x 72 in travel. Are you Canadian because you work in metric? I still have not changed over. The ball screw clicking could be that you do not have double ball nuts face to face preloaded apart. This eliminates any backlash and some ball nuts takes one directional load only. The ball screws were anchored at each end with double angle contact bearings . to keep the screw from flexing. We would take 2in thick 304l stainless plate clamp it on two inche copper parallels so it would not slip also to allow for the chips to clear the cut.Chips and heat are your enemy! Drill a 1in hole thru the plate and use a 1 dia x 2.25 in corncob end mill all the way thru the plate . 200 rpm and 2in of feed full depth to make this plate into a doughnut shape. Did this for 39 years. Corn cob cutters are the best,1st rule of milling always climb cut, 2nd rule of milling always climb cut, 3rd rule of milling never conventional cut Use double ball nuts face to face preloaded and double angle contact bearings at both ends of lead screw. Have a good day.

  59. John Scott

    John Scott

    پیش 13 روز

    Where did you get those gas shocks? Need a pair for my 100 year old mill. The table weighs around 500 lbs at least. Needs help going up. Have to buy a 2hp motor just to move it. Got a car steering wheel on it now. The base the table rides on is huge. The table 32inch and can move 38 inch left or right because of the huge base it's on. And no the ways aren't over tightened.

  60. RedFathom

    RedFathom

    پیش 13 روز

    connector is a dbhd44. better than a db13w3 i guess.

  61. caphenning

    caphenning

    پیش 14 روز

    The cause of the .0001 drop is what is causing your Y axis to chew up.

  62. Paul Kepner

    Paul Kepner

    پیش 14 روز

    Hey Tony, what camera or cameras do you use to record your videos?

  63. Aaron Westbrook

    Aaron Westbrook

    پیش 14 روز

    Hey Tony, it almost looks like the y-axis crunch sound is being caused by those two hoses rubbing together! Just a thought!

  64. مصطفى اللجي

    مصطفى اللجي

    پیش 15 روز

    Good job you can make an Chuck

  65. Drimaropoylos Ioannis

    Drimaropoylos Ioannis

    پیش 15 روز

    Hi Old Tony, when you cutting a cycle cw the mill behaves like conversational milling because the left side cuts more material, and when cut a cycle ccw the mill is behave like climb milling because the right side cuts more material, I thing this is the reason you see different finish in the s type groove

  66. Eduardo Rojas

    Eduardo Rojas

    پیش 15 روز

    @ThisOldTony I'm not sure if you were joking, but at 5:23 you can see there is a tube rubbing against another in the back, making the crunching sounds you mentioned

  67. delmar93

    delmar93

    پیش 16 روز

    love this.

  68. TheDarmach

    TheDarmach

    پیش 16 روز

    While printing cases for the buttons you could create embossed names/descriptions for the buttons on the 3D model :)

  69. Fugly Joe

    Fugly Joe

    پیش 17 روز

    I watched this in two sittings...

  70. Captain Mother

    Captain Mother

    پیش 17 روز

    Can't help but notice those Chinese Leadshine ELP-750 Ethercat drives are already gone or hard to get.

    • John Anderson

      John Anderson

      پیش 16 روز

      It's hard to tell with Chinese knock-off EtherCat stuff...I've heard good things (cheap) and horror stories (had to replace after a few months, weird firmware bugs, motor bearing failures etc.). I'm sure Tony will tell us if it's breaking down over time. It's always suspicious when you see this stuff being hawked on eBay, AliExpress, etc. Hopefully it will all work great for him. Thanks for nice video!!

  71. David Wells

    David Wells

    پیش 17 روز

    Weren't you having issues with the y axis essentially right after you got it? Could there be a underlying issue with the u axis that's causing the ball nut to break?

  72. RazielTheBoo

    RazielTheBoo

    پیش 17 روز

    Honestly Tony, hearing you find your voice, grow more comfortable in your videos, and learning so much from you, has been awesome. :D

  73. Brett Spillman

    Brett Spillman

    پیش 17 روز

    Fantastic video. A bit more on servos.. Not all of them have batteries. The reason that servo has a battery is because it has an absolute encoder (this is how it can "remember" its position through a powercycle.) Some servos, like Allen-Bradley servos, use an incremental encoder but rely on the controller to maintain reference. In the machinery I work with on a daily basis, German paper converting equipment, there are many servo-driven elements. Since they're using incremental encoders, we have reference sensors on particular parts of the machine that the controller uses to "home" an axis. I've recently started watching your videos regularly and I'm really impressed with the amount of information you're relaying to the audience. I've learned a ton from you and I really appreciate the content. I've decided it's time to get a mill myself and stop using the ones at work for home projects. Originally, I wanted to get a CNC mill but the more I watch your videos and a few others on IRface, I think I'd be better off getting a manual mill and adding CNC capability. This video may very well have catalyzed that idea. Thanks again for the great information and the laughs!

  74. Demian Marcath

    Demian Marcath

    پیش 17 روز

    those are tapered gibs your y axis has there those can tighten up under motion if they have some play. now they should have either one screw pushing on either side which is a system that pretty much eliminates play in the gib but most of the time, for ease of use, they have one screw that fits into a groove to push the gib in and out ant if some part of that is worn the gib has some play to tighten up under load and screw up a ball screw in one way only

    • Demian Marcath

      Demian Marcath

      پیش 17 روز

      gliding ways can also work in rapid back and forth motion pretty well if they're lubricated enough, which they likely are in this case. still, scraping the ways can go a long way in keeping the oil on the ways under rapid motion. don't worry about the geometry, it should be finde the way it is and just a few crossing scrapes every half an inch is enough for those chonky guideways

  75. Hugh Frater

    Hugh Frater

    پیش 17 روز

    Tony, do you know if your motion control system is driving those servo drives with step/direction or in torque mode with 0-10v inputs for speed and torque?

  76. Hugh Frater

    Hugh Frater

    پیش 17 روز

    Those leadshine servos are tiny - amazing. I've a ton of experience with the Lichuan ones, they're fantastic value, I think we pay around $250 for a 750w drive and motor package.

  77. ckid slag

    ckid slag

    پیش 18 روز

    11:35 When you got to tell your folks some bad news.

  78. Stephen Ferrell

    Stephen Ferrell

    پیش 18 روز

    Question, has MAHO called and asked for their machine back? :)

  79. BullofMagTime 3D

    BullofMagTime 3D

    پیش 18 روز

    5:21, If you pay close attention, you will see the sleaf ripple against the hydraulic-line... just saying

  80. KillerkoUK

    KillerkoUK

    پیش 18 روز

    Did I just watch a 48 minutes long video about some cnc machine?

  81. crazzo PL

    crazzo PL

    پیش 18 روز

    Hey Tonny! Isn't that weird sound in 5:37 a sound of a steel thingy rubbing on white plastic thingy?

  82. desert_jin

    desert_jin

    پیش 19 روز

    My mechanic training is nearly a decade old, I am not good at electrics and useless with electronics, yet I've enjoyed the whole thing (though my two braincells went "nope!" for the electronic part) !

  83. dcw56

    dcw56

    پیش 19 روز

    I sure miss This Old Tony. Nice that the new CNC guy kept the same hands and voice, though....

  84. i992dc

    i992dc

    پیش 19 روز

    THIS OLD IS THIS OLD TONY I FELL IN 🖤 WITH! welcome back misterMR

  85. Joe Donohue

    Joe Donohue

    پیش 19 روز

    do you want your conduit wire opening to fill with chips? Cover them up....

  86. Keith’s Garage

    Keith’s Garage

    پیش 20 روز

    So who are the two others that made it to the end?(; I love these longer videos there just so packed right to the tippy top with information. And it’s the good stuff too, not like the crap you see on the news.

  87. Tim Piggott

    Tim Piggott

    پیش 20 روز

    That was incredible Tony. I have no idea what you're talking about and yet I enjoyed every minute. I have attempted to watch "gone with the wind" (oh Ashley, oh Ashley) a couple of times but given up before the end! Not with this video! I am the 4th person to watch it all. I even think I could fool someone into thinking I know the difference between savoury and fruit loops! Thank you for making me a better person 💝😘

  88. Pete DiCapua

    Pete DiCapua

    پیش 20 روز

    This old Tony. Try an Igus ball screw instead. No crunch and cheap and tough

  89. stewartfrye

    stewartfrye

    پیش 20 روز

    Maho, Maho man, i'd like to be a Maho man. I guess the guy in leather was German?

  90. Tomoko's Enterprize

    Tomoko's Enterprize

    پیش 20 روز

    WOW, I'm with Ron Covell, , , ALL IN ONE BREATH, Amazing.

  91. Cameron

    Cameron

    پیش 20 روز

    5:40 Do you think that ah perhaps the crunch sound is coming from those two ribbed pipes rubbing together in the background?

  92. Richard Markham

    Richard Markham

    پیش 20 روز

    Epic videos on this conversion Tony! So, if you here back at square one, would you do it again? (Ignoring all the lovely content you've created at the same time) Is buying an old CNC Bridgeport a better starting place?

    • This Old Tony

      This Old Tony

      پیش 20 روز

      right now? no. in a few years? prolly. 😁

  93. Ricks Roadies

    Ricks Roadies

    پیش 21 روز

    "Green Mile", love it!

  94. Garrett Carlson

    Garrett Carlson

    پیش 21 روز

    "Why do I watch these videos? I HATE machining!!" Also me- hey look a new TOT video.

  95. Casey Roman

    Casey Roman

    پیش 21 روز

    Personally, I'd change out the gravel in the " Y" ballscrew. I tend to like smooth river pebbles over crushed granite.

  96. Logan M P E

    Logan M P E

    پیش 21 روز

    Boy those overhead shots are hard on the vertigo!

  97. Tom Jacobs

    Tom Jacobs

    پیش 21 روز

    I don't know anything about machining, milling, cnc, turning what have you at all. Barely have a concept of what those terms even mean. I guess its either Tony's style of presentation or me being a masochist that not only had me sitting through the entire video but even put my automatic porn downloader on pause for 48 mins.

  98. ROBRENZ

    ROBRENZ

    پیش 21 روز

    A 48 minute video is not long. There is some idiot on YT doing 90 minute videos and not even apologizing, rediculous! Great video Tony as always! ATB, Robin

    • This Old Tony

      This Old Tony

      پیش 21 روز

      90 minutes?! the nerve of some people! 😉😘

  99. Neodimium

    Neodimium

    پیش 21 روز

    The color is RAL6011.

  100. Kurt Stedman

    Kurt Stedman

    پیش 21 روز

    The paper trick is still the best for 3D printing! Automatic bed leveling is kinda meh.